Q: Between the sprit and the body, is it love that provides the
M: What else? Mind creates the abyss, the hearts crosses it.


Q: All teachers advise to meditate. What is the purpose of meditation?
M: We know the outer world of sensations and actions. But of our
inner world of thoughts and feelings we know very little. The primary
purpose of meditation is to become conscious of, and familiar with,
our inner life. The ultimate purpose is to reach the source of life
and consciousness. Incidentally, practice of meditation affects
deeply our character. We are slaves to what we do not know. Whatever
vice or weakness in ourselves we discover and understand its causes
and its workings, we overcome it by the very knowing; the unconscious
dissolves when brought into the conscious. The dissolution of the
unconscious release energy; the mind feels adequate and become quiet.

Q: What is the use of quiet mind?
M: When the mind is quiet, we come to know ourselves as the Pure
witness. We withdraw from the experience and its experiencer and
stand apart in Pure awareness, which is between and beyond the two.
The personality, based on self-identification, on imagining oneself
to be something: `I am this', I am that", continues, but only as a
part of the objective world. Its identification with the witness


Q: As a child fairly often I experienced states of complete
happiness, verging on ecstasy: later, they ceased, but since I came
to India they reappeared, particularly after I met you. Yet these
states, however wonderful, are not lasting. They come and go and
there is no knowing when they will come back.

M: How can anything be steady in a mind which itself is not steady?
Q: How can I make my mind steady?
M: How can an unsteady mind make itself steady? Of course it cannot.
It is the nature of the mind to roam about. All you can do is to
shift the focus of consciousness beyond the mind.
Q: How is it done?

M: Refuse all thoughts except one: the thought of `I Am'. The mind
will rebel at first in the beginning, but with patience and
perseverance it will yield and keep quiet. Once you are quiet, things
will begin to happen spontaneously and quite naturally, without any
interference on your part.


- Nisargadatta Maharaj

"I am That"
Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj,
Published by Acorn Press
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